The clen I'm not so positive about. Started off on a dose of 40mcg per day. Felt almost nothing. Slowly and gradually moved to 160mcg on a daily basis and still experience very little but have retained at it for about two months at that dose. John Durret 9 August, https://deannfvkz.buscawiki.com/1191142/a_secret_weapon_for_ugloz_legit